tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16963152.post1092579120825729234..comments2023-04-09T10:10:14.059-03:00Comments on On My Walk: An Open Letter From The President Of The FGAKevlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18080346872086553798noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16963152.post-54644945786811878032009-04-21T22:53:00.000-03:002009-04-21T22:53:00.000-03:00Kev:
As you are aware...
At the Fred Lybrand blo...Kev:<br /><br />As you are aware...<br /><br />At the <I><B><A HREF="http://fredlybrand.blogspot.com/2009/04/ges-gospel-lybrand-open-letter.html" REL="nofollow">Fred Lybrand</A></B></I> blog I was asked by Gary to comment on my view of the <I>Crossless</I> gospel. He wants to know how I feel about it in regard to whether or not it is heresy, a false gospel in light of Dr. Fred Lybrand’s first, but not final reply to the question. I feel it is a valid question and this was my reply.<br /><br />Gary:<br /><br />Here is my reply to your question. I trust you have the character to post it here since you called on me here to answer you.<br /><br />1) Honesty is the best policy, and honestly before the Lord, regardless of Fred’s opinion, which he’s entitled to, <B>I cannot see how the GES gospel is NOT heresy and/or a false gospel</B>. In this respect, I must agree with Gary’s line of reasoning: If a person “<I>cannot get saved from</I>” the GES gospel and those who preach it and teach it need to “<I>repent</I>” of it, how is it not heretical and a false form of the gospel? <br /> <br />2) The real issue here <B>is not what either Fred or myself think</B> about a particular label, but what does the Word of God say about the “<I>gospel</I>?” If the “<I>gospel</I>” is “<I>the message of the cross</I>” according to God’s Word itself in *<B>1 Cor. 1:17</B>, and the lost must “<I>believe</I>” in Christ’s “<I>work</I>” on the cross and in His resurrection so as not to “<I>perish</I>” (**<B>Acts 13:41</B>), but GES comes along and actively says (i.e., “<I>preaches</I>”) to people that they <B>DON’T have to believe</B> in the very content that God says they must believe, how is that NOT “<I>preaching a false gospel</I>l” or “<I>heresy</I>?” This is not a matter of GES men struggling internally with this <I>Crossless</I> question in their own personal conscience. They are actively, aggressively, publicly teaching and preaching their “<I>Crossless</I>” version of the good news. How is that <B>NOT preaching a false gospel</B>? <br /> <br />3) We all recognize that the term “<I>heresy</I>” is a loaded and emotionally charged word. I can understand Fred’s reluctance to use this term or even to say that his former GES associates are “<I>preaching a false gospel</I>.” That is a difficult admission for anyone regarding former friends or family members in the body of Christ, and I think Fred is trying to be polite here and keep the discussion focused on what saith the Scriptures? That’s his prerogative. I am, however, personally convinced in my conscience before God that the GES view is <B>an egregious heresy and a false gospel</B> and I am always ready and willing to say that publicly, without apology, even if other brethren who recognize the GES errors are not quite there yet.<br /><br /><br />LM<br /><br />* “<I>For Christ sent me not to baptize, but <B>to preach the gospel</B>: not with wisdom of words, lest <B>the cross of Christ</B> be made of none effect</I>.”<br /><br />**<I>Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you</I>.”Lou Martuneachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08683967904677815711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16963152.post-48922234088871369672009-04-19T22:58:00.000-03:002009-04-19T22:58:00.000-03:00Hey All,
Being new to this blogging idea, I'm dis...Hey All,<br /><br />Being new to this blogging idea, I'm discovering that I've stepped into tangential controversies...so, it seems easiest for me to address my Open Letter on the GES Gospel (and other things) at my own site.<br /><br />I'm posting this same message at some others sites I've visited. Thanks for the opportunity to be in the conversation on the GES Gospel.<br /><br />My blog is at www.fredlybrand.org<br /><br />God bless,<br /><br />FRLDr. Fred R. Lybrandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03236228911080466523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16963152.post-15884552704259669572009-04-16T20:25:00.000-03:002009-04-16T20:25:00.000-03:00Brother Fred,
I have just now finished my examina...Brother Fred,<br /><br />I have just now finished my examination of your letter. I believe it to be a significant contribution to Christendom at this time. <br /><br />I will be asking some questions, and possibly making comment. I intend to do so at <A HREF="http://indefenseofthegospel.blogspot.com/2009/04/open-letter-ges-gospel-aka-crossless-or.html" REL="nofollow">Lou's Blog</A> because he has a larger and more wide readership than I do here. <br /><br />I hope my readers will also participate there. <br /><br />Thank you,<br />KevKevlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18080346872086553798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16963152.post-86562540674238096922009-04-16T18:19:00.000-03:002009-04-16T18:19:00.000-03:00Thanks Fred,
I'm going to be reading your letter ...Thanks Fred,<br /><br />I'm going to be reading your letter more closely this evening. I'm sure I'll have some questions afterwards. <br /><br />Thanks for being so open, and I <B>very much</B> appreciate the tone of what I have read in it so far. <br /><br />Bless you!<br />KevKevlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18080346872086553798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16963152.post-22414621842904382752009-04-16T13:16:00.000-03:002009-04-16T13:16:00.000-03:00Hey Kev,
Thanks for helping get the message out. ...Hey Kev,<br /><br />Thanks for helping get the message out. I'd love to answer any questions your readers (or you might have)might have.<br /><br />Also, for the record, I am actually still the President until October's elections...and I'll remain ex officio on the FGA Council for at least the next year.<br /><br />I know the letter intro gives a different impressing because of the titles established by our bylaws.<br /><br />Thanks and God bless,<br /><br />FRLDr. Fred R. Lybrandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03236228911080466523noreply@blogger.com